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This is what I'd like. You can't find them on the cheap, when you can find one.
1999 dodge american cruiser
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Its funny because I really like the dodge platforms. Jon got a dodge and I got one too. This American Cruiser has a 360 (like mine does), its on a 1 ton Dodge chassis, mine is a 3/4 ton. Jon's is 3/4 ton too. I will have to look for these. The Road treks are very similar, the 210 Road trek is almost the same layout. They are almost always 10-20K for a good one. Mopar makes solid stuff, better then GM. The fords with gas motors are problematic.
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What I like about the cruiser is that it's totally self-contained. It even has a wet bath, that is stand alone. Yeah, no doubt dodge makes the best american motor. The interior of the cruiser is beautiful. I bet if you look out of state Bob, you'd find one. You're going to have to spend some money for one that is in good shape.....which most are.
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They made a few models some don't have interior showers. Some models have outside showers.
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I don't like the layout of this one. It looks like it has the bed mid cabin. I like the bed in the back with a sitting area mid cabin near the kitchen. This one has a single door in the back and it looks like a bathroom and a closet in the rear. Nice interior, I like the wood. It is a dodge 1 ton with a 360 so its similar to my van only probably 1000 pounds heavier. I bet it gets 10-12mpg
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If I could afford it, I'd be looking at a pop-up pickup camper. You can use your pickup like a pickup and then slip the camper in the bed when you want to go traveling. Then when you get there you could set it up, pull the truck out, and have something to drive around in.
Here are some of the features... http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/index.php/four-wheel-campers/interior-features/ Here's a decent full-size (8 foot) model. Has a shower drain tray built in. You can get self-contained toilet units as well. Slide it into the back of a 3/4 ton or 1 ton pickup and you're on your way... http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/index.php/products/for-full-size-trucks/grandby-8-0-long-bed/ One of the advantages that I like is you can carry canoes or kayaks on the roof without having to worry about height clearance. Attached Images
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I like it, Its nice to be able to set up and separate. This perhaps the worse part of Van camping. When ever you leave you have to break camp. I got a Bob trailer for my bike so I can go to the store and haul back stuff on my bike. 70 pounds is enough cargo for most trips. Another reason to roll on two wheels.
We have been successful staying on Hermit Island for the most part. We usually leave once or twice in a week. All we need to do is roll up the awning and go. For a week we only need a cooler full of stuff with just Joanne and I. When we brought 3 or 4 kids we would roll out to town every other day. Our van probably cost us 5K in purchase and maintenance the last 3 years. We have logged 8400 miles in it and slept in it perhaps 40 times. At 14mpg and 3.60 a gallon we have dumped 2200 in gas in the tank. That is about half the cost of the 8 foot camper insert. At 14K its a pretty pricey unit. Its not bear proof either. If we spring for a more self contained rig it will be less then 10K. I still have not found a driving camper like the American Cruiser that allows the hauling of 2 kayaks on top. Almost all the extended roofs will not take a rack for boats. This is a real down side for me. The Van solution like I have is really solid for 2 people hauling bikes and kayaks. Not too tall and pretty bullet proof. Yes no bathroom but I am really not all that excited about hauling one around everywhere I go. It would be hard to kayak if you could not deal without an on board crapper. If and when I go to the Bathroom/Kitchen all the time in the rig I might step up to a larger older RV, You can get a lot of space in a class C and still haul boats on top. The mileage penalty is 2 or 3mpg which in the grand scheme of things is pretty small. I might get one for a specific trip and then sell it right after.
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It's great to have options, you should listen to the radio flea market this sunday, last week I heard many campers for sale.
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Bikin this weekend both days early. Jon you would love Blueberry hill in Warren. Its nothing but fun. Its just to the south of Blueberry lake, no signs, park at the lake crawl across the beaver dam and then look for tracks in the woods on the south side of the road. Its a big 8 trail system with the right side for up low and the left side up high. All bermed and banked, 0 Tech, 3 Grunt, 10 Fun on the Bob scale
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Tom you have the right idea I have been looking for a Hallmark for the last few years they're made in Colorado. I would probably to upgrade Tundra. THe pop ups are the way to go I love them! Bob you are so funny you are NOW so concerned about gas when you have and your significant other have commuted a billion miles and millions of gallons of gasoline. Whats a few more hundred thousand gallons to you?
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DP you are such a whack Job. Your wife commutes more then mine does. I bet you roll around as much as I do. You use funny math too.
Here is the deal 15,000 miles times 2 is 30,000 miles. That is what my wife and I drive maybe a little less. We have a lot of rigs, some get 13-15 some get 25 some get 30. If you pick 20mpg as an average. 30,000 miles is a yearly burn of 1500 gallons of fuel. So at 3:60 a gallon that's 5400 bucks a year in gas. That is 450 a month. So if you look at the 24 years I have lived out here this is 720000 miles. This is less then 3/4 of a million miles. This is way less then a Billion miles. It is also about 36000 gallons of gas since 1988 I think not millions of gallons of gas. Its actually just 3.6% of what you said in terms of gas and like a fraction of a percent of your mileage estimate. You are correct in that gas is not all that significant. Food is more, Taxes are about 10 times the cost of gas per year. I look at a Van trip to Alaska as a math problem. You need to move 10000 miles. 10000 miles at 10mpg is 1000 gallons of fuel or 3600 dollars today. If you buy a 15K pop up camper slide in for a trip like that you just spent what it would take to drive an old Winnebago Brave on that trip including purchase price and rebuilding it. My plan is to spend abut 20K on a 6 month trip. I will sell the rig after I use it. What I really want is this unit right here. This vintage came with an Izusu Box truck drive line. IT got 10mpg and its got tons of room.
Wack Job here
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You know how many miles I've racked up in the last 3 years about 12K and the year before about 5K.
KP has a sipping car (and no hills to climb) which has been absolutely trouble free... and how many cars have you been through in the past 4 years??? 4-5 maybe? Bob that's the new math man, get with it! One thing I do like is the rig you picked out Oh and Happy Fathers Day Oh and Joe when is Grandfathers Day?
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12K in the last 3 years? You are so full of it. I bet you went 10K miles just back and forth to Boston the last 3 years. I say you three drive between 20 and 30K miles a year and that is not much different then us. My carbon foot print is a size 10 and yours is a size 8 or 9. Big deal! Lets not get in to the money we both get every month for mileage reimbursements. If would just piss others off.
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Look you just cant beat this with a stick
2500 is the asking price. Gas is a minor expense
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Reimbursement .....what? you get reimbursement!
BG I go to Boston twice a year that's 800 miles I've been to Brimfield 3 time a year and that's less than 1000 miles. So 1800. HI once that's another 600. So we're up to what 2500.
My wife 16K a year 32 miles to St A. all highway I might add.
Your wife does the exactly the same 16K and you 20K not even adding your to and from bike rides every day after work!
So you're pushing 45+ thousand miles between the two of you easy!
So buck-O your doing twice as many as us!!!!
Oh your 37 miles from Stave Brook Dr Starksboro to Winooski and your wife is 32 to Essex from S B Dr.
Do the math now Buck-O
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My commute via the back road to Williston is 28 miles. I never go over 45 miles an hour its all back roads to Williston 4 corners then straight down Williston road to Patchen road. My wife's commute is 24 miles. Our commute miles if we went every work day are 27500. Whats cool is we can ride together and cut that way down if we want to. When we go to Maine for a week we save miles.
Your wife's commute is 33 miles which is just under 17k miles a year not counting driving around Franklin county. I bet you that Toyota sees 25K miles a year. Face it DP you are a 4 car, one power boat gas guzzling fool like me. Jon uses way more gas then the two of us combined. Why don't you pick on him?
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Bob that dodge/winn combo looks great for the money. That'd work getting to alaska......and you could junk it/sell cheap in alaska and fly home. What a trip that'd be. Just leave the guns and sharp knives back here in vt. You don't want your wife having to carry your body back to vermont in a body bag.
Get real.....who really gives a rats ass about their gas
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"Get real.....who really gives a rats ass about their gas"
Bob does... just flip back to previous posts its all about the gas! So obviously it must hit him harder than he is willing to admit. BG I just put all those facts I gave out straight from map quest so how you shave 20 miles off your commute is a miracle! and your wife's shaves off 16 miles its a miracle I say. a miracle. Oh don't forget the 20 traffic lights you hit (starts & stops). Where do you get 4 cars? if your counting kids cars well then how many boys do you have 3 so lets see yours would be well over 120,000K miles.... Carbon Footprint! OMG My son goes from home to school.... period. whats that 12 miles a day? 27500 miles for your fleet hahaha you must be still new to the new math!!!!! Gas guzzling fool like you.... come on BG face it I live right here close to it all and you ... well everyone knows where you live and have lived for the past, what 20+ years. WOW now that adds up, new or old math. Your just more fun to pick on BG PS I do love ya bud, know matter how big your CFootprint is
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I think this is the root of DP's cause.
"The mileage penalty is 2 or 3mpg which in the grand scheme of things is pretty small" I said that because that is the mileage difference between a 3/4 ton van and a larger s mall class C unit. As far as my commute goes I zeroed the Odometer and measured door to door 28.3 miles. I take a very scenic route . I travel almost to Richmond and then turn right on the Richmond Hinesberg road. I go straight through Fayes corners and end up on I think Timber Lane by the Williston Overpass on 89. Then I turn right and go to the Williston 4 corners and turn left on Williston Road. I follow that to Patchen and roll into the Chase mill in Burlington off of chase street. You can measure it if you want to. I have measured Joannes commute too, its 24 miles one way honest to god. We are about 16 miles form Richmond and its just 8 more miles to the Post office at Lang farm Gas is a significant expense its just not all that different when you are talking 2-3mpg.
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My wife says I have to leave you alone, that you are a nice man.
we will continue this at boysweekend
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This one is in New Jersey. Its got 92K miles been sitting a bit. These can take a rack on the roof.
3500 bucks. 1980 year TBI 360 Auto, pretty simple http://cnj.craigslist.org/rvs/3886302019.html
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I posted that one a month ago. I think its ratty inside. Its a V6 and I think the people want to loose it. scrap weight is 325 maybe so 800 is their low ball price. Thing is that is a simple rig and it would cost very little to make it run good. If is not rusty it could be a deal.
Freaken Hot out. Just went in the pond again. 77 here and sticky.