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Tom
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It seems that canoes are not cool anymore based on the roof rails that come with new cars and the rack systems that are now available...

I tried to find rack towers to use with our canoe that fit the roof rails on our new Subaru. Well, I found some towers but they're not designed to accommodate a full-sized canoe on the rails that come with the car. The rails are too close together with limited attachment points and the towers aren't designed to handle the gunnel brackets. At least for a real canoe. The website shows the towers being used with a canoe but if you look closely, the canoe is a small toy compared to a full-sized (16 to 18 foot) canoe.

Everyone's into paddle boards and small kayaks which fit the new roof rails and racks just fine. No go for canoers, we're left holding the boat. Now I have to figure out a way to retrofit the old towers so I can use them with the new car. What a PITA.

I miss rain gutters. [smile]

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Bob
Reply with quote  #2 
You are a member of a decreasing market share and therefore dont rate when it comes to new car configuration.  My advice is to obtain an old Dodge van for your Boating adventure. They are cheap and easy to fix, have rain gutters and tons of room. Yea 15mpg sucks but how far are you going to canoe?

Did you consider just getting the narrow rails and then clamping some 2X4s on top with some U brackets. The 2X4 would just be an extension on top of the rail. Cheap and effective?
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Tom
Reply with quote  #3 
I really don't want to start buying vehicles for specific needs. I have a quiver of canoes, a quiver of bicycles, a quiver of skis, and a quiver of fishing poles, the last thing I need is a quiver of vehicles. I barely have enough room for all that other shit. [biggrin]

I know I could just bolt a crude rack onto the rails but I'd like to use the nice crossbars and handy attachments that have worked so well for 20 years. I also thought about using the rack towers I already own by removing the factory-installed roof rails but that's not going to happen. There's a reason they're called "factory installed"; the attachment bolts are under the roof liner. [rolleyes]

I'll just bite the bullet and make it all work together. I should charge Subaru and Yakima for my time.
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Joe
Reply with quote  #4 
Tom, I was just saying to my wife "it's funny how change doesn't necessary mean better". I feel your pain....... in the ass that is. Good luck with tweaking your rack, I bet it comes out nice. Bob just needs it to work..... not always pretty, but well engineered.
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Bob
Reply with quote  #5 
I think you already have vehicles for specific needs. You just don't have one specified for carrying two canoes, dogs, camping gear and bikes. That's cool, I only have two canoes and you wouldn't own either. Flat Sterned canoes that paddle like a big water pig. I have two Kayaks too. Nothing wrong with a battle wagon if that's what you want. I have engineered two racks on my Vans. I like having a sturdy structure on top. I can walk around up there on a PT wood run way. I could haul all four boats if I wanted to and tow a trailer full of bikes. Its just a hobby and eventually some one else will take over owning them.
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Joe
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eventually some one else will take over owning them




Really?.......like Rathe's?

Love that you are stuck in old school Bob. I'll practice some of that, in a few weeks at BW.
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Tom
Reply with quote  #7 
A van for road trips would be nice. We've talked about it but it might be better to just rent something when we want to get out on the road. Still, if something came along for a good deal we might consider it.
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Bob
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Joe you are just jealous you have to drive the same minivan every time you go somewhere. I could not own one car unless it was a 4 wheel drive diesel van convertible with a roof rack that would never rust. They don't make that so I must have a sacrificial Winter car (beater). Then I can own  summer convertibles, vans, camper, motorcycle that don't get attacked by the State. Vermont's biggest jobs program is Road salt. IT keeps more people busy then anything else they do.
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DP
Reply with quote  #9 
That way you don't kill one vehicle all at once.
...No worries I'll drive this instead ... options
Hey BG the saltmine is moving closer to you. Here in town down from the Burl now.
Off loading from trains here
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Joe

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Fresh salt for the state roads, fresh from the town of Shelburne....... Now known as the salt-distribution-center of Vermont. Poor Shelburne.

Bob, I'm telling ya, the mini is the boss, and having a motorcycle to round it out, makes it just right.
Your set up for camping is great..... Dodge van mega haul. You can't kill a dodge, I swear. My dodge mini is rusting bad, but the tranny and motor are looking and running perfect. I will drive it proud to the ground. Then send it off to rathes. I have the body covered up, so it looks pretty respectable from about 50 ft away.
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Bob
Reply with quote  #11 
Stan bought a Dodge Caravan beater from his neighbor. 500 bucks with 100K miles. We drove it to Sugar loaf to bike a few weeks ago.

I checked out a ford Ambulance turned into a camper today. IT was pretty cool. The guy that owned it did 44 states in it last year. 7.3 liter diesel dual wheels in the back. He had it set up to carry two dirt bikes on a back porch. Outdoor shower, little toilet on a slide that came out of a closet. Tricked out.

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